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I'm always surprised at the "that CCP piece is ugly, what an abject failure that unsettles me!!!" comments, I mean most/all CCP pieces are ugly and abject successes, if you don't understand this much you should stop wearing and discussing the brand.
if ugly/pretty don't cut it, lets use the words "intriguing" and "off-putting" for anything ccp
"AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."
I'm always surprised at the "that CCP piece is ugly, what an abject failure that unsettles me!!!" comments, I mean most/all CCP pieces are ugly and abject successes, if you don't understand this much you should stop wearing and discussing the brand.
Ugly is ugly. If something is ugly but interesting, I'd say so.
And I think most of CCP is not ugly. I don't know where you are coming from on that one.
Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
Fuck you and your viewpoint, I hate this depoliticized environment where every opinion should be respected, no matter how moronic. My avatar was chosen just for you, die in a ditch fucker.
I think fuuma equates 'ugly' with 'against the aesthetic standards' or 'against good taste'.
There is no other good operational definition, I don't mean beauty in the philosophical sense (say true beauty, where I think CCP could qualify according to some philosophers) here but in a way we can reach a mass of posters here and have a common understanding. Think of modern art where the concept of "beauty" is long discarded in favour of different pursuits (be they expressive, conceptual or formal-the later being a fancy way to say the work is ABOUT beauty instead of being beautiful).
Fuck you and your viewpoint, I hate this depoliticized environment where every opinion should be respected, no matter how moronic. My avatar was chosen just for you, die in a ditch fucker.
Mmmm, you think I agree with some common standard of what good taste is? Time to shut down shop.
certainly not. i was just accounting for fuuma's words... i would guess that for you, neo-romantic as you are, beauty equates above all with a personal and private experience -something happening in the inner self and not 100% possible to publicly disclose or accountable with discursive means.
Fuck you and your viewpoint, I hate this depoliticized environment where every opinion should be respected, no matter how moronic. My avatar was chosen just for you, die in a ditch fucker.
I think Fuuma's point was pretty clear. These are items that don't look "pretty" in a traditional sense, although some people (e.g. us) may find beauty in them. The modernism analogy makes sense to me, leaving behind a "safe" aesthetic towards a more challenging one. A lot of brands we discuss here are on that page, CCP just tends to take it farther than most.
However, just because something can be seen as beautiful in a non-traditional sense doesn't mean it will be or has to be. I find the weirdness of the fully jointed boots very appealing; on the other hand I understand the appeal of the drip sneakers but I find them to be too far along the "ugly" scale for me. CCP items are very hard to be objective about, but I think that's part of the fun.
Grail acquired. Linea grey leather pants that carried a 6k price tag. Sadly they are just a touch too small. Most beautiful things I have come across. Not looking forward to selling these.
Fuck you and your viewpoint, I hate this depoliticized environment where every opinion should be respected, no matter how moronic. My avatar was chosen just for you, die in a ditch fucker.
lol , was not planning to since most of you know what it is already anyways. Just to cover my butt if some thinks im trying to up my post count with no proof
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