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  • endersgame
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1623

    i don't believe that people who lift with perfect form now have never injured themselves in the past. my logic to this is you need to hurt yourself a little to learn from mistakes. i was given the instruction but my body didn't listen. how heavy is too heavy? how many reps is too much? only my body knows not the trainer.

    btw i would totally do tough mudder even though it sounds like a gameshow. yeah it's pointless, but aren't marathons and tri-athlons the same? same money making venture. what is it $300 to register a marathon these days?

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    • nvsnli
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 197

      Ye keep hurting yourself as it is part of the process according to you, update how that goes.
      Especially when it comes to back people should not fool around.

      Once you break your back, its broken.

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      • endersgame
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1623

        just to clarify the extent of my back injury. it wasn't like i was in traction in the emergency room. my back was sore for a couple days.

        i just came back from crossfit tonight. it was an all lifting chipper WOD.

        adjusted my form. scaled the weight down. took my time.
        overall a good workout. no back pain.

        I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO FIND LOU FERRIGNO TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

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        • GucciAmen
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 362

          Regarding deadlifts, much like other complex compound movements, weights should start out very light, perhaps even just the bar, so that the basic form can be "perfected". Then, the weights can increase, as bad habits are hard to fix when you've already progressed so far and don't wish to start back at the bottom once you realize your form is going to cost you sometime soon... It's a long process, but much more rewarding in the end from my experience.

          Two tips: 1) Always keep head up and looking forward about feet, as the body will follow,
          2) Keeping the back in a neutral position is paramount in regards to safety

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          • finite-
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 14

            i just do 2 of the main compounds every day (deadlift/squat/bench/ohp) and add random accessories such as pull ups/chin ups/pull downs/rows/dips/curls/crunches/leg raises/calf raises/planks/flyes/etc and eat maintenance with 150-200g protein. squeeze in a 5k cardio every now and then
            Last edited by finite-; 01-01-2015, 04:21 PM.

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            • dduyyy
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 138

              Havent checked this thread for a long time haha. Thanks lowrey and endersgame for the advices. Yes I believe my case is all about genetic (my legs are like my mother's), so even if workout cant do anything for my legs, it's still good for my health.
              Btw, just attended yoga for 2 weeks. It really helps me a lot, especially in calming me down. Im just wondering beside the time in class, do I need to practice it at home? I attend 3-4 classes a week.

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              • porthidium
                Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 48

                Originally posted by endersgame View Post

                ahaha yup basically me in a nutshell

                i'm one of the few girls that lift in the gym..it's a lot of fun

                my deadlift weight is 215lbs right now. trying to focus on intermittent fasting and more plyometric/HIIT exercises

                i lift/work-out 6x a week, cardio 3x a week (i like to run in different neighborhoods of manhattan and brooklyn), cycle to work everyday, and on my rest days, i usually do bikram yoga to stretch out.

                eat clean - no sugar, no flour, no refined carbs, minimal to almost no oil. i stopped drinking for 2 years for fitness/weightlifting reasons but recently started again. gave up chocolate 2 years ago.

                and yes, on chest/back day, i will wear my rick owens tech runners to the gym.

                i'm not one of those blessed girls that happen to be naturally thin - i have to work really really hard to maintain.
                @porthidium_

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                • galia
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1702

                  So, less fitness than health related

                  I am attempting to rid myself of chronic headaches, since I am currently not allowed to take any medicine aside from paracetamol, which has little to no effect.

                  I used to have chronic migranes as well as headaches. Getting laser eye surgery has cured me of most of my migraines (I still get a few cycle based ones, but that can't really be helped without taking hormones and I'm not about to do that), but I still have a lot of headaches.

                  I started to run a month ago, every morning before breakfast and that has definitely helped.

                  I also found out I have food intolerances, mainly eggs and ferments (and milk-based products + honey to a lesser degree). I'm going to try and cut both out for a couple of months and see how that goes.

                  Do you guys have any ideas about other things that might be causing chronic headaches? I have at least one headache a day, and sometimes they last several days in a row. I sleep well, enough hours, good quality of sleep.

                  I barely drink any alcohol and have given up smoking. I'm running out of ideas about what could be causing this. It's not a super debilitating problem like migraines, but it's a little exhausting and it's preventing me from doing all I want to do in a day.

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                  • ADreamofBlue
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 194

                    Have you tried cutting gluten (I'm not sure if that's what you mean by ferments so pardon my ignorance)? I assume you're European since you're calling acetaminophen paracetamol. I'm part of a gluten-free forum and I've read a fair bit in the gluten-free community and it seems like Europe is extremely easy to go gluten-free. I'm not sure if you tried it already, but I've read plenty about people's headaches going away after cutting it out.

                    I've been gluten free since February 2013 and I'm on a low FODMAP diet now due to a dietitian's recommendation. It's really never been easier to go gluten free than now. I guess ignore this if you already are or have tried it.
                    who slips in to my body and whispers to my ghost?

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                    • galia
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1702

                      I would like not to go gluten free if possible.

                      What I mean by ferments is yeast, baking power, raising powder plus basically anything fermented (incl yoghurt, wine, vinegar, mushrooms, cheese, etc)

                      So I'll try doing without that + eggs and if that doesn't work I'll cut out gluten too, but in France that can become a bit of a challenge.

                      No more baguette and croissants for me is hard enough I'm going to learn to make chapati to replace bread.

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                      • ADreamofBlue
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 194

                        Being gluten free in France would be a trial... once you cut out all these popular ingredients, you learn to get creative haha. I've tried so many other foods and types of cuisines because I've had to cut out gluten and dairy, and I don't really miss it anymore which is very odd to think I've arrived at this point... I used to love biscuits and fritters which were a staple in my house since half my family's from Georgia.
                        who slips in to my body and whispers to my ghost?

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                        • GucciAmen
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 362

                          Originally posted by galia View Post
                          I would like not to go gluten free if possible.

                          What I mean by ferments is yeast, baking power, raising powder plus basically anything fermented (incl yoghurt, wine, vinegar, mushrooms, cheese, etc)

                          So I'll try doing without that + eggs and if that doesn't work I'll cut out gluten too, but in France that can become a bit of a challenge.

                          No more baguette and croissants for me is hard enough I'm going to learn to make chapati to replace bread.
                          Cutting out things one is sensitive too is a good idea, but put into practice can be very challenging (speaking from experience)... I did this for years but recently found a BIE specialist - uses an acupuncture-like technique to reintroduce the frequencies of the foods one is sensitive (or even possibly allergies) to. After the treatment is done (takes minutes) you wait a day, and then can ingest all the things you were treated for that you could not before. I thought it was too good to be true but it actually worked very well on me, and cured a number of my family members (similar intolerances with dairy, gluten, vinegar, etc...). I had mine done in Canada, but the machine was designed in Germany so I'm sure you could find a BIE specialist where you're from? If you want more info, just send me a message, I'd love to be of assistance.

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                          • lowrey
                            ventiundici
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 8383

                            Do you have any neck, shoulder or back pain? How is your posture, do you sit a lot during the day? I had frequent headaches for probably 10 years and it was all because of my neck, I pretty much only felt it in my head for several years, but then I realized where it originates from after it got worse with age. I had pretty bad posture issues - tilted pelvis, over arched back, head pushed forwards etc - which all contributed to this and now I've spent years slowly correcting this and hardly get tge aches anymore.

                            Anyway, just one idea, might not be related to your issue, but when you mentioned running it got me thinking that that could be releasing tension in the neck and back too.
                            "AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."

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                            • galia
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1702

                              I think it would do my body good to remove these things from my food for a while, but in a few months I would definitely be interested in trying that. I'll keep it in mind! thanks

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                              • ronin
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 200

                                I surmise you've already cut out tea and other drinks high in tannins? A headache-prone friend told me she now avoids oignons as well as dark-coloured berries (probably due to tannins too) and beans (not lentils though). Things seem to have improved for her since, but she made other changes to her diet and lifestyle at the same time, so I can't tell how effective cutting out these specific foods was. I also hear that dark-green leafy vegetables (spinach, kale, chard...) are a good way to soothe headaches due to their high magnesium content.

                                Going gluten-free is still not an easy task in France, even though more and more products are available. I had never heard of ferment intolerance though, and wow does that sadden me, I could get used to living without bread if absolutely necessary but living without miso, natto, mushrooms or vinegar sounds a thousand times more painful to me. I sincerely hope you don't share my passion for weird old food.

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