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Old 03-15-2013, 04:32 AM   #7341
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i'm not following you? the boots are really bad, in that particular way that CCP can be...way too literal, like pat is implying. frankly, i've seen better interpretations of that particular style from artsy "comfort" shoe manufacturers aimed at "quirky" pottery professors or someone of that sort.

if i am missing something, please enlighten.
well, i'm sold to his work so i can see the beauty of this awkward attempt to feminize the spiral boots (in the last collection he went back to the classic sole for the fe-male tornados which become too close to the male version but that's another story). plus there are other plays on the japanese classic garments in the 09 collection where these boots come from. anyway, i see your point and patroklus's and can agree to some extent. the point of my post was a meta-wtf, not about the shoes but about the original poster.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:36 AM   #7342
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It's way too late to do it now but did anyone ever make a galliano newspaper print that had articles about his racist tirade
I guess it's too late, but that would've been a meme.
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:39 PM   #7343
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if you are referring to the pic above then yea the sole is weird with the asian stilt.
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I like the idea of the CCP boots but to be quite honest, it's not very well executed.
Always the same problem... You're judging these boots from a point of view/perspective that no one will ever seen - unless one is lying on the ground knocked down by the woman who'd wear the boots and strongly disagree with that kind of stupid comments.
Laika : they're coherent with CCP's constant effort to design shoes and boots that are hindering the gait - more or less - and belong as well to the long list of hybrid forms he likes to create (remember something that I sent you a while ago ? ).
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:48 PM   #7344
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CCP's constant effort to design shoes and boots that are hindering the gait
i know the footwear is notoriously uncomfortable, i didn't realize it was purposeful. could you elaborate a little please?
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:20 PM   #7345
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which of the shoes are uncomfortable for you? maybe you've sized wrong.

my derbies, boots and sneakers are all very comfortable.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:56 PM   #7346
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I don't own any. I'm just curious about the idea.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:14 PM   #7347
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which of the shoes are uncomfortable for you? maybe you've sized wrong.

my derbies, boots and sneakers are all very comfortable.
+1 love my ccp boots, super comfy
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:46 PM   #7348
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Comfortable, but heavy.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:03 AM   #7349
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The only CCP footwear pieces i've handled are intimidating. Super comfortable and look like they were constructed by the hands of a greek god, but very intimidating pieces that look like they belong on display in a gallery.
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i know the footwear is notoriously uncomfortable, i didn't realize it was purposeful. could you elaborate a little please?
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which of the shoes are uncomfortable for you? maybe you've sized wrong.

my derbies, boots and sneakers are all very comfortable.
Lowrey is right, if you wear them in your size, derbies/oxfords/boots/sneakers aren't uncomfortable. But I wouldn't say that they're comfortable, I would even add that saying that CCP shoes could be comfortable would be a misinterpretation.
Why aren't they absolutely comfortable, like, say, uggs ? Because some boots are designed, not globally but locally, to hurt the feet : the creases on the toe-box are located just above the toes' joints and press them, on the 2007 boots for example. Derbies (2007, 2008, etc.) have a very low heel cup and you foot might easily slip outside of them, running with them is almost impossible. The one-piece boots (from 2009 or 2010) are lacking of proper instep, which function is usually to maintain the foot in place inside of the boots. Etc, etc.
Why are they designed like this ? Because CCP is interested in disfunctionating bodies - or make them disfunction - or revealing that no body functions well (sorry, guys from the "You body, your health" thread...). Have already said this many times, no need to elaborate further.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:51 PM   #7352
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I'm sorry, those CCP boots do not work for me. It's equivalent to a philosophy calling itself brand new by appending a few oriental concepts onto already existing beliefs.

Some bonafide CCP stilts, however, could be interesting...

Finally, I wear some CCP size 12 boots with a thick sport orthotic and they're actually more comfortable than Rick trainers because the tight thick leather actually provides a lot of ankle support! Carol would be disappointed.
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:45 PM   #7353
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Laika : they're coherent with CCP's constant effort to design shoes and boots that are hindering the gait - more or less - and belong as well to the long list of hybrid forms he likes to create (remember something that I sent you a while ago ? ).
I'm a terrible person.
I haven't forgotten though...thank you for liberating my guilty conscience.

In the case of the shoes, I understand the concept all too well (it's so literal here that it pretty much hits you over the head...).
I just think the form fails, and not intentionally here. I'm open to being convinced otherwise though. CCP thread has been very quiet for awhile now.
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:59 PM   #7354
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The hybrid forms have always been very litteral (the shirt with the bomber elastic cuff at the waist, the knit with the shirt collar, etc.) - like a school kid joke.

Gotta send you some pics, where the shoes (and the wearer) look like the're levitating.
This shape works as an mirror image of another : the platform boots with the bridged sole, but no pic of them has been posted on the interwebz, afaik.

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Old 03-17-2013, 07:06 PM   #7355
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^Would be awesome to see them in action.

I actually have a pair of very non-conceptual (Chloe) shoes with a beautifully shaped wooden wedge that produces (no doubt to a lesser degree) that effect of levitation when worn. They are very precarious, like walking on rocking horses, and they receive more compliments than any other shoe I own.
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they receive more compliments than any other shoe I own.
This is always a very bad sign.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:15 PM   #7357
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which of the shoes are uncomfortable for you? maybe you've sized wrong.

my derbies, boots and sneakers are all very comfortable.
Hmm, you need to get a real dress shoe, go to John Lobb or whatever and you'll see what comfortable means in that category, as for trainers well buy some Roshe runs, now that's comfortable. CCP is, at best, not uncomfortable.
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Hmm, you need to get a real dress shoe, go to John Lobb or whatever and you'll see what comfortable means in that category, as for trainers well buy some Roshe runs, now that's comfortable. CCP is, at best, not uncomfortable.
Fully agree.
Forgot to say that the derbies are way heavier than any other shoe of the same kind, and that they have a quite high heel that men are not really used to.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:45 PM   #7359
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Hmm, you need to get a real dress shoe, go to John Lobb or whatever and you'll see what comfortable means in that category, as for trainers well buy some Roshe runs, now that's comfortable. CCP is, at best, not uncomfortable.
they are comfortable as in good to wear and walk in. I'm of course speaking for my own collection.

I think you know what I meant with my reply though, I wasn't saying they are the most comfortable shoes ever made, but not generally uncomfortable either. I wouldn't generalize all ccp footwear as material makes a bit difference whether or not the shoes are for example constricting or not.

And even though the ccp's are called "trainers" or "sneakers", I wouldn't really compare them to proper running shoes.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:21 PM   #7360
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i thought it was suggested they were designed to be uncomfortable. and yes, drips and the like seem to have more in common with some of the earlier sneakers ever made, or something rubberized in that wwii-ish way than anything being called a sneaker now.

in any case i'm partial to the lunarlon-soled nikes myself.
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