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  • Dane
    HAMMERTIME
    • Feb 2011
    • 3252

    I still wear some OG DH stuff...but it (like most of what I buy) is/was not the runway/"interesting" stuff, but the simpler things.

    Frankly though, he has (had?) a vision of what men should look like, just like Rick does, and if he sticks to what he's comfortable with, I think people will still embrace it.
    i traded my LUC jeans + Julius belt + Neil Barrett jeans for a blamain biker jeans

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    • mike
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 349

      the funny thing about the ro comparison is that after hedi peaked and became more in the realm of the mainstream it seems like he got kicked to the curb, while after rick's mainstream success he is still going strong. i haven't noticed a whole lot of people jumping off the ro ship, but maybe it will be a slower decline. also, perhaps hedi would have faired better under his own label rather than a luxury house. a big house and a strong vision do not seem like a perfect combination.

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      • Pumpfish
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 513

        Rick has much wider appeal. He is serving a much wider market than Hedi's Dior ever did.

        While I'd draw parallels in the strength of their vision, not many fitted the shrunken dolly cuts at Dior, or identified with the youthful fantasy.
        spinning glue back into horses. . .

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        • Dane
          HAMMERTIME
          • Feb 2011
          • 3252

          Originally posted by Pumpfish View Post
          Rick has much wider appeal. He is serving a much wider market than Hedi's Dior ever did.

          While I'd draw parallels in the strength of their vision, not many fitted the shrunken dolly cuts at Dior, or identified with the youthful fantasy.
          boy oh boy did many try though!
          i traded my LUC jeans + Julius belt + Neil Barrett jeans for a blamain biker jeans

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          • mrbeuys
            Senior Member
            • May 2008
            • 2313

            Originally posted by Pumpfish View Post
            Rick has much wider appeal. He is serving a much wider market than Hedi's Dior ever did.

            While I'd draw parallels in the strength of their vision, not many fitted the shrunken dolly cuts at Dior, or identified with the youthful fantasy.
            Are you serious?
            This whole Rick / Dior comparison doesn't make sense to me. Maybe just insular thinking here, but how can we compare Rick Owens which despite its success and impact on the bigger mainstream is still a small label with a juggernaut like Dior. Sorry, just don't see the relevance and don't see how Rick's path would have any bearing on Slimane or YSL, they are competing on different planets. Seriously, if I had a pound for every guy who looks like he's had his jeans painted on and pairs it with a small suit or leather jacket I could afford much more Rick.
            Hi. I like your necklace. - It's actually a rape whistle, but the whistle part fell off.

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            • Hiddenaway
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 90

              I don't think the comparison is too far off between the two really. Both are influential designers (of their time) that have a strong point of view. Both also dabble and are influenced by the same things; music, art, furniture, architecture, and style. Hedi designed most of the furniture that went into his Dior Homme stores, he also helped with a lot of the music, took the photos, etc. Rick does the same.
              Sure Dior, as a brand, is in a whole other realm than Rick but Dior Homme, the clothing, is not far off. I would say that Dior Homme, at the height of it, had less if not the same amount of retailers as Rick. Dior is not big because of it's men's clothing, that's for sure. But it's fragrances, accessories, bags, and makeup. That's where the money is.
              I also agree about the skinny jeans/leather jacket look but I will say, that's not too far off from how most wear Rick's clothing. Not too many out there wearing skirts and knee high wedge boots. Just like not too many wore Dior Homme's crazy pleated drop crotch pants and glitter covered blazers (at the time).

              With that said though, I really do appreciate what both have brought to the table in terms of 'fashion'. And I do think Hedi's vision can still be viable today. It will just be interesting how much leeway he's given at YSL and if he can maintain the vision he wants. I'm very interested to see how it goes.

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              • mike
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 349

                it is not so much rick : dior but hedi : rick as designers in their respective segments of mass appeal. if you look in terms of what is "in style" at the moment it is quite clear. previously everybody was copying and wearing hedi's look as you mentioned. but now this has shifted. i don't think it is even considered fashionable to dress in a dior aesthetic any more. it is apparent rick is still highly imitated, every high street shop has copied his jackets, not to mention you see them being worn all over the place. however now i think there is a beginning in the decline of rick's popularity as well.

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                • Fuuma
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 4050

                  Originally posted by Hiddenaway View Post
                  I don't think the comparison is too far off between the two really. Both are influential designers (of their time) that have a strong point of view. Both also dabble and are influenced by the same things; music, art, furniture, architecture, and style. Hedi designed most of the furniture that went into his Dior Homme stores, he also helped with a lot of the music, took the photos, etc. Rick does the same.
                  Do you know many influential designers who do not have a strong point of view? Or many designers who aren't interested and inspired by music, art, furniture, architecture or "style" (whatever that is)? I mean you could be describing Armani or any fucking designer.
                  Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
                  http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...me-other-stuff

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                  • mrbeuys
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 2313

                    ^ what he said
                    Hi. I like your necklace. - It's actually a rape whistle, but the whistle part fell off.

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                    • Faust
                      kitsch killer
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 37852

                      From WWD

                      PARIS — To catch a glimpse of Hedi Slimane’s latest and largest handiwork for Yves Saint Laurent to date, there’s no need to wait for his runway show here on Oct. 1 — but you’ll have to hop a plane to Shanghai.

                      On Tuesday, YSL is slated to open a 3,200-square-foot Saint Laurent Paris boutique in the Reel Department Store on Nanjing Road West. It’s the first unit in the world to reflect a new floor-to-ceiling store concept developed by Slimane, who is applying a 360-degree makeover to the mythic fashion house.

                      The second Slimane-designed unit, spanning 5,400 square feet, is slated to open in Berlin in November — an enlarged and revamped store at 52 Kurfürstendamm. A 9,600-square-foot, two-level flagship at 53 Avenue Montaigne here is slated for a February opening.

                      The retail developments were disclosed in an exclusive interview with YSL president and chief executive officer Paul Deneve. He described an ambitious growth strategy designed to seize on the “new creative brand vision” of Slimane and catapult YSL, owned by retail-to-luxury conglomerate PPR, to match the scale of its French couture peers Chanel and Christian Dior.

                      “That level of business is what we want to build. That’s the potential I would like to develop,” Deneve said, stressing that everyone from the Pinault family, PPR’s reference shareholder, to the rank and file at YSL are united behind that objective. “We’re preparing to revolutionize fashion again, as Mr. Saint Laurent did in the Sixties.”

                      Plans call for the 51-year-old fashion house to open about 15 directly operated stores and shops-in-shop a year, all under the new Saint Laurent banner, which Slimane chose to symbolize the principles of youth, freedom and modernity that inspired the creation of Saint Laurent Rive Gauche ready-to-wear back in 1966.

                      “The store concept has been completed, designed and perfected, and is ready for rollout,” Deneve said. “Very rapidly, we will see the overall store network evolve.”

                      YSL said the store design references the French Art Deco and Union des Artistes Modernes (French Union of Modern Artists) movements.

                      Key materials include black and white marble, raw concrete and Thirties-esque display furniture with gold, silver, mirror and glass.

                      No opening event is planned for the Shanghai store, which will carry existing products designed by Stefano Pilati, Slimane’s predecessor. “By January, everything will be in place,” Deneve said, referring to the collections, store design and other elements of brand identity.

                      Signaling it is serious about leapfrogging into the big leagues, YSL has set an interim goal of reaching one billion euros in sales before the end of this decade, according to industry sources. YSL revenues in 2011 totaled 354 million euros, or $493.6 million at average exchange rates.

                      Given YSL’s ambitions to rival the likes of Chanel and Dior in size and cachet, might Slimane return the brand to couture?

                      “It could be a natural step, but no timetable has been defined,” Deneve said.

                      To be sure, the executive has his hands full facilitating the change in creative leadership.

                      Slimane unveiled his first collections — women’s resort and men’s spring 2013 — to retailers only in June, fanning anticipation — and some consternation — among the fashion press. Only images of new packaging, and a spare leather bag named Duffle dangling from the arm of Gwyneth Paltrow, have leaked into the blogosphere.

                      Lauding Slimane’s fashion perspective, Deneve said “not only has he redefined a strong men’s and women’s wardrobe for Saint Laurent today, but he’s worked on a new offering of shoes, leather goods and jewelry.”

                      Deneve said YSL carried over certain hit products like the Cabas Chyc bag and Tribute shoes, which were “upgraded and reworked.” In addition, Slimane’s first collection included a “very strong offering” of novelty in accessories that yielded solid orders.

                      He noted the rtw collection reflects a broader range of prices to appeal to “new, younger clients,” with prices on some exceptional items heading higher.

                      “Saint Laurent, in order to be successful, is creating a very strong desire through the ready-to-wear: That’s what has been at the heart of our business. We’re one of the iconic names, the ultimate French fashion house. This trickles down to all products,” said the ceo.

                      That said, Deneve said his objective is to drive all categories to new heights.

                      As of the end of June, rtw accounted for 21 percent of YSL sales, versus 23 percent for shoes, 42 percent for leather goods and 14 percent for other products, such as jewelry and silk. Europe is a key region for YSL, accounting for 46 percent of revenues versus 26 percent for North America, 21 percent for Asia, and 8 percent for Japan.

                      “We’re growing strongly in each of the regions since the beginning of the year,” Deneve said, adding that China, where YSL has only half a dozen stores, offers “tremendous upside” potential.

                      YSL quietly resumed expansion of its retail network in 2010 after battling for years to lift revenues sufficiently to support the 60-some doors constructed during the Tom Ford-Domenico De Sole era, when a radical attempt to engineer a Gucci-esque rejuvenation drove YSL deeply into the red. The company finally posted a profit in 2010.

                      Deneve noted investments in the retail revamp and other costs would not, thanks to strong revenue growth, interrupt YSL’s recent profitable streak. Sales in the first half rose 46.4 percent to 223.5 million euros, or $290 million at average exchange.

                      YSL opened five stores last year and the network stood at 89 locations as of June 30.

                      Deneve arrived at YSL in April 2011 following a three-year stint heading Lanvin, where he oversaw explosive growth for the French brand under creative director Alber Elbaz.

                      In his time at YSL, Deneve’s most visible move has been to recruit Slimane to succeed Pilati, who had been YSL’s creative director since 2004.

                      Deneve also described additional transformations behind the scenes, “laying the groundwork for the change” around Slimane, known for his “to the millimeter” approach. These include streamlining product development cycles, deepening merchandising skills “and applying them to make products that are more focused, exclusive and coherent,” Deneve said.

                      Changes and upgrades in production, and strict quality controls for Slimane’s collections will mean later-than-usual deliveries for the first season, with the first products arriving in January.

                      For example, he said Slimane’s “quest for perfection,” especially in tailoring, a key trait of the house, meant the company had to invest time and resources to get the fits right. He noted production cycles would be less affected in leather goods and shoes.

                      Deneve said he was able to shave seven weeks from deliveries, and reduce stockkeeping units in leather goods by about 40 percent. He also shelved what he called “side collections,” alluding to capsule ranges devoted to unisex, eveningwear and travel wardrobes, in order to focus on the show collections and pre-collections.

                      “For the organization, it’s been an exhilarating moment, but also so intense,” he said. “Hedi has set very high standards, and expects people to meet them. He has such a clear vision, from Day One, about where he wants to go.”



                      Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                      StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                      • avout
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 261

                        Originally posted by rilu
                        ^ just how is any of this exactly going to "revolutionize fashion"?
                        I don't know about that, but it sounds like a pretty solid plan for making lots of money.

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                        • mike
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 349

                          He noted the rtw collection reflects a broader range of prices to appeal to “new, younger clients,” with prices on some exceptional items heading higher.
                          this = lots of denim, tee shirts, and sneakers lol


                          For example, he said Slimane’s “quest for perfection,” especially in tailoring, a key trait of the house, meant the company had to invest time and resources to get the fits right.
                          at this point this is the only thing to hope for

                          also i'm surprised by the level of transparency in regards to their business agenda. but then again their target consumer probably won't feel alienated.
                          Last edited by mike; 09-19-2012, 11:43 AM.

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                          • Fade to Black
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5340

                            lol that looks exactly like the Dior Homme flagship here in hong kong, except with marble.
                            www.matthewhk.net

                            let me show you a few thangs

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                            • Fuuma
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 4050

                              Looks like what the barbarians designing luxury hotels today think understated luxury or some other nonsense keyphrase looks like.
                              Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
                              http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...me-other-stuff

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                              • Crowzer
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1197

                                New introduction picture:

                                4/15

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